I Saw Women in the Church Following the Respected Elders

I had two dreams last summer after Anne Graham Lotz called for a week of prayer for the United States. The week of prayer began the end of June and ended July 4th, 2014.

That same July 4th weekend I had two dreams.  Both dreams pertained to the church in the last days and God was kind enough to give me a clear picture of at least part of what He expects from us. I will now give you the second dream and its interpretation.  If you thought the first one about the revival wave was tough–well, brace yourself.

I had a dream. I was standing in a vestibule of a church, the area where people gatherimages4XQNJQ0A before and after church. There were five or six respected elders, all men, standing in the vestibule. The men were dressed in suits and ties and they told a gathering of women to follow them. The women dressed up as well and were of all ages, 20’s to 80’s, and they were known as strong godly women in the church.

I was a watcher in the dream. I saw the elders lead the group of women out of the vestibule, down a long hallway, up a few stairs, down another hallway, and then down a longer flight of stairs into the church basement. They went into the large basement area which had a gray cement floor and was empty except for the large metal beams that held up the framework. I stood at the doorway and watched.

The elders went into a side room on the left and told the women to wait there. The women naturally fell into line, eager to be a part of whatever God had for them with these trusted elders.

A couple of the elders came out and chose one of the women and directed her to go into the side room. They closed the door behind them. The other women looked at one another–baffled as to why any of them were there.


I jumped a little. I thought, Surely that was a file cabinet that fell down in there.

A few of the elders came out, all dressed in business suits of course, but the woman did not follow them. They approached another woman in line. One of them said, “You’re next.”

The woman looked hesitantly at her friends beside her. She nodded and followed the men into the side room. I watched the reaction of the other women in line. They looked puzzled. I wondered why the elders didn’t just tell them why they were all down there.

It was quiet for a minute.


Shock snaked down my spine. The women in line jumped.

A young woman at the end of the line had broken away by this time and stood in front of me talking. She was sharing her personal trials with me and thanked me repeatedly for truly listening to her. I wanted to listen to her and help her, but I saw that we had a larger problem in hand.

Another dear sister in the Lord to me, Becky, broke away from the line as this young woman talked to me. (Becky was the only person I knew in this dream and I didn’t see her until this moment). I nodded at Becky. I thought she must be a wise sister who is pretending to go to the bathroom. I prayed to God that she would get out of there and I waited a few seconds to give her time to escape.

The men walked out of the side room again. This time they approached a young pretty woman in her 20’s. Three of them gathered around her as if a consensus was needed. One of them said, “Your brother is on our worship team and we like him a lot. We don’t want to upset him. We have decided that you may go.”

The young woman quickly and nervously walked toward a door on the other side of the basement.

The men called another woman to go inside. The young woman in front of me kept talking and I signaled her to stop. I tried to hear God in all the confusion, but it wasn’t easy. I was about to step into the room and stop the massacre. I knew I would be putting my life on the line to try to intervene, but it was right, and I knew God was with me. He allowed me to see this. I started to go inside the room and I woke up.


images4XQNJQ0AThere are strong, faithful, holy women (and men) of God who’ve contributed in many ways to their local church. Intercessors, Sunday School teachers, worship leaders, secretaries, administrative assistants, and Bible teachers who’ve sweetly invested sacrificial hours upon hours of their time and energy into their local church. As these women become stronger and stronger in the Lord, there are church leaders who’ve become threatened by their successes or even jealous of their rapport with church members or their influence with the pastor of the church. These “elders” would rather eliminate these women so they can “do church” their way.

Now, before you think I’m way out there somewhere, I can tell you that the few women I’ve shared this dream with so far have told me in tears that they knew exactly what this dream meant before I interpreted it. How did David say it?

Even my close friend,  someone I trusted, one who shared my bread,     has turned against me. (Psalm 41:9)

Both of these dreams came at the end of the strong week of prayer for an awakening in the United States of America. Each dream is a warning. Think of it this way–if you were God and you saw your holy daughters treated in this way, would you keep quiet or would you warn your household?


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My day job is writing--I'm an author and publisher of a number of books. More on that later. But there is nothing of greater importance to me than the early morning hours I spend with the Creator of the Universe. Although He knows everything there is to know, His greatest delight isn't to give us knowledge, but to give us love. My highest joy is to watch the sun rise with notebook in hand and write the words he speaks to my heart. I want to share some of those words with you here . . . words on the cross.
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7 Responses to I Saw Women in the Church Following the Respected Elders

  1. Larry Who says:

    Sad dream. I hope churches heed the warning.


  2. Brian Due says:

    Jeremiah 9:17-21a
    17This is what the Lord Almighty says:
    “Consider now! Call for the wailing women to come;
    send for the most skillful of them.
    18Let them come quickly
    and wail over us
    till our eyes overflow with tears
    and water streams from our eyelids.
    19The sound of wailing is heard from Zion:
    ‘How ruined we are!
    How great is our shame!
    We must leave our land
    because our houses are in ruins.’ ”
    20Now, you women, hear the word of the Lord;
    open your ears to the words of his mouth.
    Teach your daughters how to wail;
    teach one another a lament.
    21Death has climbed in through our windows
    and has entered our fortresses;


  3. markssong says:

    Overall, I guess it happens to women more, but it happens to men too. Bottom line is : “I don’t play church anymore.” Problem solved..


  4. Mark, I agree. The dream was gender specific and in some churches women are oppressed. But this applies to men as well.

    Brian, I was caught by two things–call for women who are SKILLED at wailing? That stood out to me from the passage you shared. But the last two verses describe this dream accurately. “Death has climbed in through our windows (a place we trusted to emit light) and has entered our fortresses (a place where we felt secure). Selah. I need to think on that passage.

    Larry, this is a sad dream. It really shocked me. I don’t know how to get this dream to the churches so that they actually hear it. I am deeply concerned for holy women of God (and men, too) who feel guilty because they love the people in their church, yet they sense God is moving them out.

    The answer? Fear God, not people. Care about what God thinks about things more than what people think (including Christians we respect).

    Please pray with me that the people who need the picture that this dream provides will read it and hear from God.


  5. paintaloosa says:

    Piercing vision, Hope! The leaders took them to the foundation…deceived by desire to serve…they did not even know how to hear the voice of the One who would have guided. So many personal thoughts related to this…but the teaching to ‘tune it’–to know His voice–is the positive I am left with :). I love your voice too because it always echoes HIS!


    • Paintaloosa, I never thought about the reason why the women were vulnerable to deception except that so many are held back from leadership positions due to gender. Larry you touched on this in your recent blogs. someone once told me, “It’s a shame you were born a girl as much as you love to preach.” We do need to hear God and obey him. Great input!


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